3rd Gen Engine Failures

TheDo114 said:
yeah 2.7 and the 3.0 diesel seems to be the only engine with no problems from GM
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The 3.0 has had plenty of problems, as has the 5.3 and 6.2 from GM the 3.5 and 5.0 and 10 speed from Ford and the Hemi from RAM. They all have issues, some serious, some minor. Some, by some I mean all including Toyota is that we'll never really see or understand exactly how widespread they are.
 
Fightnfire said:
The 3.0 has had plenty of problems, as has the 5.3 and 6.2 from GM the 3.5 and 5.0 and 10 speed from Ford and the Hemi from RAM. They all have issues, some serious, some minor. Some, by some I mean all including Toyota is that we'll never really see or understand exactly how widespread they are.
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I should have clarified, by no problems, I mean no major issues left unresolved like on the 5.3 and 6.2.
 
TheDo114 said:
I should have clarified, by no problems, I mean no major issues left unresolved like on the 5.3 and 6.2.
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Maybe I'm being argumentative but I don't think any of those issues are truly resolved, maybe with the exception of the hemi because they stopped making it. The Ford 10 speed is definitely not resolved as with issues with the 5.0. I do feel like the GM lifter issue is down to "normal" occurence levels just as anything can fail on any engine but not resolved. The 3.0 still has issues but it hards to tell how common due to it being the least popular option in the line-up.
 
Fightnfire said:
Maybe I'm being argumentative but I don't think any of those issues are truly resolved, maybe with the exception of the hemi because they stopped making it. The Ford 10 speed is definitely not resolved as with issues with the 5.0. I do feel like the GM lifter issue is down to "normal" occurence levels just as anything can fail on any engine but not resolved. The 3.0 still has issues but it hards to tell how common due to it being the least popular option in the line-up.
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Look hard enough and you’ll find problems with everything.
 
Fightnfire said:
Maybe I'm being argumentative but I don't think any of those issues are truly resolved, maybe with the exception of the hemi because they stopped making it. The Ford 10 speed is definitely not resolved as with issues with the 5.0. I do feel like the GM lifter issue is down to "normal" occurence levels just as anything can fail on any engine but not resolved. The 3.0 still has issues but it hards to tell how common due to it being the least popular option in the line-up.
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I was referring to the 3.0 diesel not the rest of the engines/transmissions you mentioned but I get it, it's impossible to find something with absolutely no problems. But finding something with fewer problems or less important problems that do not leave you stranded is what I'm after.

What kind of issues are you seeing on the 3.0? I was looking at the forums and other than random codes popping now and then there seems to be no actual problem with the hardware itself.

Currently dealing with the ford 10 speed problems myself. Had the valve body replace a month ago and it's going in again next week since it started acting weird again.
 
So basically every truck has its problem, and its a crap shot whether you get a decent truck or not?

I do fear that if I want to see my Tundra, I'm going to get effed in the a, losing a ton of equity. Prime example?

My 2020 Tacoma I paid $37k for. I paid it off (to get the Tundra) and got $38k for it. That made the down payment on the Tundra. So after 5 years, my Tacoma sold for $1k more than I paid for it.

I don't expect this for the Tundra, but let's say in 5 years I try to sell it with less than 10k miles. I'm guessing I may recoup only about 20k max?! Not sure. It won't be the 1 for 1 I got with my Tacoma.
 
jarbarian said:
So basically every truck has its problem, and its a crap shot whether you get a decent truck or not?

I do fear that if I want to see my Tundra, I'm going to get effed in the a, losing a ton of equity. Prime example?

My 2020 Tacoma I paid $37k for. I paid it off (to get the Tundra) and got $38k for it. That made the down payment on the Tundra. So after 5 years, my Tacoma sold for $1k more than I paid for it.

I don't expect this for the Tundra, but let's say in 5 years I try to sell it with less than 10k miles. I'm guessing I may recoup only about 20k max?! Not sure. It won't be the 1 for 1 I got with my Tacoma.
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If you put less than 10K on it over 5 years, I'd suggest you just rent one because it doesn't sound like you need one every day.
 
jarbarian said:
So basically every truck has its problem, and its a crap shot whether you get a decent truck or not?

I do fear that if I want to see my Tundra, I'm going to get effed in the a, losing a ton of equity. Prime example?

My 2020 Tacoma I paid $37k for. I paid it off (to get the Tundra) and got $38k for it. That made the down payment on the Tundra. So after 5 years, my Tacoma sold for $1k more than I paid for it.

I don't expect this for the Tundra, but let's say in 5 years I try to sell it with less than 10k miles. I'm guessing I may recoup only about 20k max?! Not sure. It won't be the 1 for 1 I got with my Tacoma.
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COVID era prices of used vehicles shouldn't be used to gauge future resale value. I bought a 2009 Tacoma SR5 4WD in 2011 with 10k miles on it for 23900. I traded that Tacoma in on my AT4 in 2021 with 200k miles on it and was given 13,500 for it. They sold it that weekend for 16,500.
 
Dusdaddy said:
If you put less than 10K on it over 5 years, I'd suggest you just rent one because it doesn't sound like you need one every day.
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Its because I work from home. I was hoping this would be my last new vehicle before I retired. I want to buy some property and do some farming so I wanted a big truck. But now, I may have to dump this thing. Taking it to the dealer this weekend to check the wind noise and crappy plastic pieces.
 
testerdahl said:
Keep in mind, there are thousands of happy owners out there. For every one person with an issue, there's probably a hundred that don't have an issue.
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I've bought 10 new Toyotas since 2001. Yes, that's a lot of vehicles. This is the ONLY Toyota I've had a genuine concern "Did I get a POS"? The wind noise on the drivers side is atrocious, the cheap plastic annoys me and some of the door protective film is peeling off.

Did the guys in Texas make this thing while drunk?
 
jarbarian said:
I've bought 10 new Toyotas since 2001. Yes, that's a lot of vehicles. This is the ONLY Toyota I've had a genuine concern "Did I get a POS"? The wind noise on the drivers side is atrocious, the cheap plastic annoys me and some of the door protective film is peeling off.

Did the guys in Texas make this thing while drunk?
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I think a lot of that is on design and engineering. Toyota’s built a lot of great vehicles over the years. This one isn’t their best.
 
jarbarian said:
Its because I work from home. I was hoping this would be my last new vehicle before I retired. I want to buy some property and do some farming so I wanted a big truck. But now, I may have to dump this thing. Taking it to the dealer this weekend to check the wind noise and crappy plastic pieces.
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If you seriously consider farming, then you should step up to an HD truck, maybe even a 1 ton truck. Farming equipment weights a lot more than what a half-ton can safely handle. Any of the GM HD trucks or Ford SuperDuty's are good choices. Ram is getting long in the tooth and are supposedly coming up with a refresh/new platform for 2025.
 
TheDo114 said:
If you seriously consider farming, then you should step up to an HD truck, maybe even a 1 ton truck. Farming equipment weights a lot more than what a half-ton can safely handle. Any of the GM HD trucks or Ford SuperDuty's are good choices. Ram is getting long in the tooth and are supposedly coming up with a refresh/new platform for 2025.
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Not that kind of farming, lol. Enough that a 1/2 ton truck is needed and a Taco isn't enough. I'd get a HD truck if it was more than that.
 
jarbarian said:
Its because I work from home. I was hoping this would be my last new vehicle before I retired. I want to buy some property and do some farming so I wanted a big truck. But now, I may have to dump this thing. Taking it to the dealer this weekend to check the wind noise and crappy plastic pieces.
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Better to wait until you actually retire and need it. I bought one when I retired from the Corps and now I'm looking for another as I retire from my second job.
 
Someone else said that the reason Toyota only basically sells crew cabs now is so there are more people on board to help push when it breaks down, I got a chuckle out of that.
 
Dusdaddy said:
Bought a Ram 1500 brand new. Now I'm looking for a mid-size. Still unsure. I'm waiting for the dust to settle on all the new 24s.
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So Mid-Size meaning a step down?

I took my Tundra to Toyota yesterday. They looked it over, checked the filter and engine oil, air leaks i complained about, etc. They said "The only issue is your brakes and there is a Toyota notification about that, when there's a fix we'll call you".

I hope they are being honest, but this Toyota dealer in my area is known to be shiesters.
 
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