All depends on what you want. ZR2 might be enough for some people. Others might want the Bison. Either way, better value in my eyes than TRD Pro.. Ranger Raptor is the best value to me. Just my opinion, which isn’t much. So be it.
Sure, but how well are they equipped? There is such a split from an entry level to a top model across all brands. The Tremor starts at $68K but add the one package that includes heated seats, tow pack, 360 cameras and you're at $80k. The Rebel is probably $75k. Hell, Tim's Big Horn is $70k. Those used to be under $50k just 5 years ago. No doubt the Pro is expensive as hell, I just don't see it being any crazier than a TRX or Raptor R. In a way, it is like those two for the mid-sizes.
I'm mean if you chose the Tacoma or ZR2 you'd have to choose a new forum named, right?
True enough but they are $50K more! I think I can add a front locker for that price. But once again, these are all exotics that only a very few will ever utilize as designed. Really nowhere around me would any of those be good. Trails are too tight and slow. Now a Rubicon or a Power-Wagon makes the most sense to me. Won't get anywhere fast but they will get there.....
Not bad actually. They are more upset with Toyota.And it's not the suspension I looked at that. Must think they'll sell more hybrid sport models maybe?
@testerdahl how mad is the Internet at you for Toyota's pricing today?
sorry, I was busy all day yesterday.
Yeah I was wrong they are standard. Wow that’s a huge disappointment.
Well, that explains some of that pricing....lol Like I said before, you wanna sit in the back? Better hand the keys Jill then.....
Don't lose sight of the supply/demand issue with the Raptor and TRX, they're not producing them in nearly as many numbers as the mid-level trucks. Part of their game is to make it seem like they can't keep them on the lot. Scarcity drives demand and drives the price up. I know Toyota limits the TRD Pro production but in comparison to the Raptor or TRX I see significantly more TRD Pros on the road in my neck of the woods.
I feel like I see Raptors more than any other top tier truck, but that could be because they have been around so long too. But you are in the PNW, Tacoma and Subaru heaven.
Oh of course.....the final production numbers will be much lower than say an XLT/Big Horn. Just the point that they are not sitting there unsold. The Pros will be low production as well but will also sell just as fast.
That's what I'm guessing. The beta is the Hybrids and then it'll migrate to all of the website.I did, yes. It makes pretty much 0 sense that they have two different experiences for build and price. It is definitely better, but I feel like some things are missing in the hybrids like the spray in bed liner. Maybe they'll update the whole site or maybe you can "order" a Toyota for the first time?
