GM issues stop delivery on L87

Maybe I've just been lucky but I haven't had any reliability issues with tech. My issue is when they tie the tech to a subscription service, particularly if that subscription is the only way to use the tech.

I was able to dump OnStar and maintain the Google features I like such as the inbuilt maps, the speed limit in the HUD and Google Assistant by setting my truck up to use my phones Hotspot for data. The OnStar features I lost such as crash and theft detection are not important to me. The Hotspot option work around works for now but I can see GM eventually locking it out so OnStar is the only option.

I'm not opposed to subscriptions that add features like SuperCruise but I don't see the value of features that duplicate what I already have through my phone.
 
Tim's just lucky that he's feeling better.

I was up till 2am thinking about this and have eleven pages of notes ready to fuel a middle age man synopsis/report on everything from owner demographics to culture of pickup trucks, to competition, to effects of living locations and on and on and on.

Everything but the increase of recall issues.

Man, did you just miss a word-bullet avalanche here!

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Fightnfire said:
Excited to watch this one, I watched TFL's video this morning and thought they missed a lot of the fine print and important details.
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Yikes. I hope I covered it well enough. I thought it was fairly straightforward

And there is my mistake. I missed that this recall only impacts vehicles on the dealership lots. That makes zero sense. It is on the TSB I used from GM-Trucks.
 
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testerdahl said:
Now there are arguments going on in the comments about that. I checked NHTSA.gov and no recall. I swear I saw an owner state on Facebook they got a notification on their app.
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My truck is a 2021 Sierra with the 6.2 no notification in my app. I read somewhere that they're not going to be rolling out actual recall notices until June. I think this will be steps and the first step is to check all existing inventory and then they'll move on to owners, just a hunch.
 
Fightnfire said:
My truck is a 2021 Sierra with the 6.2 no notification in my app. I read somewhere that they're not going to be rolling out actual recall notices until June. I think this will be steps and the first step is to check all existing inventory and then they'll move on to owners, just a hunch.
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Great my video will be more accurate in a few months…
 
This reminds me very much of the recall Hustler mowers had on their zero turn mowers that had the Kawasaki engine in it. They had recommended using the same oil as Kawasaki recommended for their Mule UTVs but the exact same engines were "blowing up" during regular use. It had been found that the constant high revs that the mowers used was breaking down the oils far sooner, so they changed the viscosity for the mowers in the engine.
 
Strictly speaking, the only time I want to return to the dealer is to buy another truck, not for a recall because of their crappy engineering or parts.
 
testerdahl said:
Frankly, I think the bigger issue is going to be the use of heavier oil. This just opens up pandora's box for people to question oil recommendations, raises questions on the 5.3L V8 and I foresee myself getting multiple emails over this.
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Everybody who knows anything about oil, already knows that higher viscosity is required for optimum longevity. It's not emotional argument, it's a chemistry argument, facts are facts.

The 20/16/12 grades are there for one reason, and it isn't engine health.

GM isn't the only one to back spec a thicker oil, Ford has flip flopped, and other global manufacturers (Toyota) just require/recommend thicker viscositys from the same engines but sold in different countries. Then you get cases like Ram which recommend thicker viscositys when towing near max GVWR etc. It's all there in black and white if anyone does more than 10 seconds of research.

I've been very frustrated watching these video interviews, engineers come on and say whatever company line they've been told to say and the interviewers just accept it as truth on face value. We're being gas lit by these guys, thicker viscosity is always the better choice for optimum engine health.

Your engine might reach 200k despite thinner viscosity, but all else being the same it will last longer with a thicker oil, doubly so if you're getting it hot and working it hard.
 
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