No More Turbo

Tompoop57

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Greetings, Merry Christmas ! New member from Pennsylvania.
I am "that guy" that buys a new pickup every 2 or 3 years drives less than 3000 miles a year and I trade in to reap the great resale value.
After owning all types and brands I have HAD IT !! with the complicated turbo's and engine deactivation, direct injection and so on.
My former F-150 with the 3.5 Eco-Boost developed broken exhaust manifold bolts ( yea part my fault cause I don't drive it much and the engine rusts) at 13K miles.
The only reason I own a pickup is occasional towing of 5000 to 8000 lbs and needing the 4x4 when the big snow hits. I need a powerful engine for towing and steep mountains.
My head was blowing up going to dealers - I want an old school, powerful engine but don't want a Superduty 2500-3500 truck, I did own a former F-150 with the 5.0 but it was dead towing and a gas hog, the Silverado with the 5.3 was out cause it felt cheap and for some reason on the test drive my whole body would slide to the drivers door like the seat was like a sliding board that really bugged me. Looking at a new Ram no dealer wanted to sell demanding top sticker price when I could get the same equipped Ford and Chevy for $10K less. I finally gave up but I visited a major used vehicle dealer just to test drive different trucks. The one that kept drawing me back was a used 2021 Ram 1500 Classic Warlock with the 3.6 V6 with only 7000 miles - it was a bargain at $28K and to my surprise the dealer gave me $24K trade-in on my F-150 even knowing it had broken manifold bolts. I bought the Ram worried that it wouldn't tow , but I did do a long distance tow of a 5000 trailer and it did better than my former- former 5.0 F-150. I never considered a Ram truck before but so far love it. I know how they rust so I got it professional undercoated.
 
Congrats on the truck!!

I'm surprised you think the 3.6 is great for towing especially in the mountains and over a 5.0L V8. Most of the testing seem to indicate that while the 3.6 engine can do it, it's revving it's heart out and is lacking in power.
 
Congrats on the truck!!

I'm surprised you think the 3.6 is great for towing especially in the mountains and over a 5.0L V8. Most of the testing seem to indicate that while the 3.6 engine can do it, it's revving it's heart out and is lacking in power.
I towed 5000 lbs up a 7% grade mountain and maintained the 65MPH speed limit, yes the engine screamed at high RPM but it did it at a faster speed than my former 5.0 V8 F-150. I recently bought a storage shed clean out with both my bed filled with 5 and 1 gallon paint and my 7 x 14 trailer filled with heavy tools, benches, car parts, not only did I have the weight of the trailer I had lots of weight in my bed at the same time, yes my former 3.5 Eco-Boost F-150 would have pulled it better but with the engine screaming the 3.6 V6 did it. I also towed 3 motorcycles on a heavy lowboy steel and lumber floor trailer made to haul a skid loader and didn't even use the tow-haul mode.
What most impressed me on the Ram 3.6 V6 engine is the head and the exhaust manifold is one piece - no manifold bolts to break off that plague the F-150 engines including the Eco-Boost.
I also got 14 MPG in tow-haul mode where my F-150's were lucky to get 8 MPG
The only complaint I have on my Ram 1500 is the terrible radio reception
The 3.6 V6 is a more simple old school engine not have to worry about turbo's and manifold bolts breaking , heard about the oil filter causing issues but I only have 7000 miles on it and I never change oil much so that shouldn't be a problem for me.
I spent big money getting my Ram 1500 undercoated and added all the accessories and I don't drive it much so I figured it should last till 2044
 
Greetings, Merry Christmas ! New member from Pennsylvania.
I am "that guy" that buys a new pickup every 2 or 3 years drives less than 3000 miles a year and I trade in to reap the great resale value.
After owning all types and brands I have HAD IT !! with the complicated turbo's and engine deactivation, direct injection and so on.
My former F-150 with the 3.5 Eco-Boost developed broken exhaust manifold bolts ( yea part my fault cause I don't drive it much and the engine rusts) at 13K miles.
The only reason I own a pickup is occasional towing of 5000 to 8000 lbs and needing the 4x4 when the big snow hits. I need a powerful engine for towing and steep mountains.
My head was blowing up going to dealers - I want an old school, powerful engine but don't want a Superduty 2500-3500 truck, I did own a former F-150 with the 5.0 but it was dead towing and a gas hog, the Silverado with the 5.3 was out cause it felt cheap and for some reason on the test drive my whole body would slide to the drivers door like the seat was like a sliding board that really bugged me. Looking at a new Ram no dealer wanted to sell demanding top sticker price when I could get the same equipped Ford and Chevy for $10K less. I finally gave up but I visited a major used vehicle dealer just to test drive different trucks. The one that kept drawing me back was a used 2021 Ram 1500 Classic Warlock with the 3.6 V6 with only 7000 miles - it was a bargain at $28K and to my surprise the dealer gave me $24K trade-in on my F-150 even knowing it had broken manifold bolts. I bought the Ram worried that it wouldn't tow , but I did do a long distance tow of a 5000 trailer and it did better than my former- former 5.0 F-150. I never considered a Ram truck before but so far love it. I know how they rust so I got it professional undercoated.
Welcome!
 
I towed 5000 lbs up a 7% grade mountain and maintained the 65MPH speed limit, yes the engine screamed at high RPM but it did it at a faster speed than my former 5.0 V8 F-150. I recently bought a storage shed clean out with both my bed filled with 5 and 1 gallon paint and my 7 x 14 trailer filled with heavy tools, benches, car parts, not only did I have the weight of the trailer I had lots of weight in my bed at the same time, yes my former 3.5 Eco-Boost F-150 would have pulled it better but with the engine screaming the 3.6 V6 did it. I also towed 3 motorcycles on a heavy lowboy steel and lumber floor trailer made to haul a skid loader and didn't even use the tow-haul mode.
What most impressed me on the Ram 3.6 V6 engine is the head and the exhaust manifold is one piece - no manifold bolts to break off that plague the F-150 engines including the Eco-Boost.
I also got 14 MPG in tow-haul mode where my F-150's were lucky to get 8 MPG
The only complaint I have on my Ram 1500 is the terrible radio reception
The 3.6 V6 is a more simple old school engine not have to worry about turbo's and manifold bolts breaking , heard about the oil filter causing issues but I only have 7000 miles on it and I never change oil much so that shouldn't be a problem for me.
I spent big money getting my Ram 1500 undercoated and added all the accessories and I don't drive it much so I figured it should last till 2044
Hope it does hahahaha!
 
The 3.6 V6 is a more simple old school engine not have to worry about turbo's and manifold bolts breaking , heard about the oil filter causing issues but I only have 7000 miles on it and I never change oil much so that shouldn't be a problem for me.
You may want to re consider," Never change oil much" the 3.6 will eat its valve train . and the problem is the oil cooler not the canister .
 
Greetings, Merry Christmas ! New member from Pennsylvania.
I am "that guy" that buys a new pickup every 2 or 3 years drives less than 3000 miles a year and I trade in to reap the great resale value.
After owning all types and brands I have HAD IT !! with the complicated turbo's and engine deactivation, direct injection and so on.
My former F-150 with the 3.5 Eco-Boost developed broken exhaust manifold bolts ( yea part my fault cause I don't drive it much and the engine rusts) at 13K miles.
The only reason I own a pickup is occasional towing of 5000 to 8000 lbs and needing the 4x4 when the big snow hits. I need a powerful engine for towing and steep mountains.
My head was blowing up going to dealers - I want an old school, powerful engine but don't want a Superduty 2500-3500 truck, I did own a former F-150 with the 5.0 but it was dead towing and a gas hog, the Silverado with the 5.3 was out cause it felt cheap and for some reason on the test drive my whole body would slide to the drivers door like the seat was like a sliding board that really bugged me. Looking at a new Ram no dealer wanted to sell demanding top sticker price when I could get the same equipped Ford and Chevy for $10K less. I finally gave up but I visited a major used vehicle dealer just to test drive different trucks. The one that kept drawing me back was a used 2021 Ram 1500 Classic Warlock with the 3.6 V6 with only 7000 miles - it was a bargain at $28K and to my surprise the dealer gave me $24K trade-in on my F-150 even knowing it had broken manifold bolts. I bought the Ram worried that it wouldn't tow , but I did do a long distance tow of a 5000 trailer and it did better than my former- former 5.0 F-150. I never considered a Ram truck before but so far love it. I know how they rust so I got it professional undercoated.
Welcome! I'm also very familiar with Blue Knob so you cannot be far from me. A great high-volume/low-price dealer. And yep, we have plenty of hills. I lose 500ft in elevation to go to work and gain 500ft to go to the mall. And that's only about 5 miles either way. I think I replace brakes on our vehicles about every 18-20K miles..lol.
As for the 3.6, I gotta agree. I bought into the hemi-hype but I understand that it really isn't necessary. We all just get caught up into that "gotta be a v8" mentality. I tow like you, 4-6K and a 3.6 would be fine. Hell, the modern 3.6 Ram has the same max towing as my hemi - 7700#s.
 
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