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@testerdahl any chance you'd get an off the record by how much their underestimated? Or even can we use the gross vehicle weight - the unladen vehicle weight as say a reasonable number?

Health first then you'll be able to conquer what you want.

Without saying that last sentence, I actually think that would be a worthwhile video to make people would definitely watch that one. In know even here and on the Tacoma and 4Runner forums would too.

I totally agree!

I think this is something you need to get a quote from Toyota Eng and Marketing on in a video and you'll get some views on that video!

It did come across, I just want, at least for myself, not to have to say don't take it personally to someone. I don't control how the other person feels and I don't know why they might feel a certain way. That's hard on a forum, but one person here asked if my feelings were hurt after they...

I looked at the 4Runner as an options for us as well, 880 lbs of payload on the Off-Road version for 2024. Toyota doesn't like payload. If I recall correctly my Tucson had 935 lbs of payload.

I've tried to convey that this is a two way street too. We all have our opinions, but sometimes what you mention above about trying to convince others your opinion is the right one is the issue. If you get to the point of agreeing to disagree, you've missed the fact that each of us has our own...

No worries, you're a busy guy these days!

Is that part of the BDR? Thanks for sharing it @Fightnfire!

Yeah that area is on our list for a nice long overlanding trip in the future for sure!

I think the one picture that looks strange is the limited or whatever with the chin, that makes it look out of proportion more than the others. It looks pretty good though. I will also be interested where they price these. 4Runner has always been more expensive than the Tacoma and then there is...

When I read the first two sentences of this, I thought you were talking about @Fightnfire's comment about the grill and ass not looking right. I snorted, and then read the rest. 🤣

But a lot of those that did died, and the PNW just has a lot of rain all of the time. Do you remember what the sun even looks like? 🤣

Here's the video I did for that little trip. Really this was to get the dog and I out for a hike, but it was cool to go hit some dirt with the Taco too!

The great part is now it'll be super easy to take care of. Just pretty much wash and dry on the paint and wash and spray on the wheels and it'll look as good as it can for years.

Thanks I appreciate that!

Well since I just bought the Tacoma 3 weeks ago, I'll have to go with that! If money were no object I'd get the Trialhunter in place of the Off-road

Now that I took six hours to clean the truck and protect the paint, I finally got it off-road a bit, even if it was an easy trail. The Taco got my dog and I to a new trailhead for a hike today and it was beautiful!

I think graphene is easler to apply as ceramic often requires two applications. Some Graphenes required two coats, but not two different bottles. Graphene is a ceramic coating btw, it just adds graphene which also helps with water spotting. Graphenes tend to have less issues with high spots as...