Toyota Tundra Engine Recall Grows Again! Automaker Admits Previous Fix Didn’t Work – Owners Patience Running Thin

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A new Toyota Tundra engine recall has been issued the same machining debris issue and the automaker admits the fix hasn’t work, but assures it has fixed many of the failed engines in previously recalled trucks. The automaker said certain 2024 Toyota Tundra vehicles may contain debris inside the engine that could cause bearing damage, engine knocking, rough running, loss of power and ultimately complete engine failure. The recall for approximately 44,000 2024 trucks expands Toyota’s ongoing problems with the twin-turbocharged V6 powering the current Tundra lineup. What Toyota Says Is Happening According to Toyota, debris left behind during the […] (read full article...)
 
Was Toyota ever realy all that good? In my personal experience I have had four Toyotas and three of them had blown up engines, its was forgiven in my mind because they were compact, unique and pretty good for off road type stuff (even my 1991 Corolla) :p
 
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Hopefully the lost of face and long term reputation for reliability makes them take this issue seriously.

A lot of chatter on the forum is that the 2025 will soon be included. Toyota is only waiting on the last few still on the lots to be sold off before including them...
 
Great video Tim.

I've owned two Toyotas and have had great luck with one (09 Tacoma), not so great luck with the other (08 Prius.) What I can't wrap my head around is the head in the sand coming from the majority of comments I'm seeing out in the ether. Toyota was absolutely on a pedestal. In some ways that was earned but in other ways ... I don't know.

Toyota has always made vehicles a generation or two behind the other manufacturers in tech, creature comforts and powertrains. They built their reputation on reliable, simple, underpowered and outdated powertrains. It seems to me that as they have tried to catch up, or even lead in some of these areas, they are failing.

They also have a history of pulling bullshit when it comes to warranties and recalls. I'm not saying they're any worse than the big 3 but I also don't think they're any better. From being forced to confront the rusted out frames issue, to sticky accellerator pedals they have a history that isn't any better than anyone else.

In this instance it seems straight up deceiving. Tim touched on that in this video. Early teardowns by trusted mechanics showed a bearing design that didn't seem sufficient. It also showed difficult and complex oiling paths. They stuck to the debris issue while they were secretly re-engineering bearing components and parts. They announced an easy debris issue fix, called it good and sold more trucks. That failed. Then they announced it resolved again, and it failed. Meanwhile people trust Toyota and keep buying the new "resolved issue" trucks. They keep failing.

People keep comparing this to the GM 6.2. Personally, I think those are two wildly different issues...especially when you consider scale.
 
Great video Tim.

I've owned two Toyotas and have had great luck with one (09 Tacoma), not so great luck with the other (08 Prius.) What I can't wrap my head around is the head in the sand coming from the majority of comments I'm seeing out in the ether. Toyota was absolutely on a pedestal. In some ways that was earned but in other ways ... I don't know.

Toyota has always made vehicles a generation or two behind the other manufacturers in tech, creature comforts and powertrains. They built their reputation on reliable, simple, underpowered and outdated powertrains. It seems to me that as they have tried to catch up, or even lead in some of these areas, they are failing.

They also have a history of pulling bullshit when it comes to warranties and recalls. I'm not saying they're any worse than the big 3 but I also don't think they're any better. From being forced to confront the rusted out frames issue, to sticky accellerator pedals they have a history that isn't any better than anyone else.

In this instance it seems straight up deceiving. Tim touched on that in this video. Early teardowns by trusted mechanics showed a bearing design that didn't seem sufficient. It also showed difficult and complex oiling paths. They stuck to the debris issue while they were secretly re-engineering bearing components and parts. They announced an easy debris issue fix, called it good and sold more trucks. That failed. Then they announced it resolved again, and it failed. Meanwhile people trust Toyota and keep buying the new "resolved issue" trucks. They keep failing.

People keep comparing this to the GM 6.2. Personally, I think those are two wildly different issues...especially when you consider scale.
It seems like a pretty chicken sh*t thing for Toyota to do by not including the 2025 and 2026 Tundras in the recall so they can keep selling Tundras, surely the 2027 Tundras will be included in the recall also. Probably even the 2028 models too.
 
What concerns me is those of us that were in the first 77,000 trucks with the engines that have already been replaced. Yes, the engines may have been tweaked with a change or two but Toyota is admitting that the changes that were made did not fix the problems. People are getting sick of this crap. I bought my truck brand new in April of 2022 and since then I've carried it back to the dealership for at least 6 different recalls. I can see a Class action lawsuit somewhere in this fiasco!
 
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