GM Defines “Normal” Oil Consumption for Trucks as Owners Say Huh? 1 Quart/2k Miles

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General Motors has issued updated guidance outlining what it considers acceptable normal oil consumption for trucks, sparking renewed debate among owners who say the thresholds make zero sense. GM Sets Official Oil Consumption for Trucks Standards According to General Motors, as reported by GM-trucks.com, all internal combustion engines consume some oil as part of normal operation. The automaker now defines acceptable oil consumption for light-duty trucks and passenger vehicles at one quart every 2,000 miles under standard driving conditions. For heavy-duty trucks with a gross vehicle weight above 8,600 pounds, the measurement shifts to fuel usage rather than mileage. In […] (read full article...)
 
I don't love it. My truck consumes a quart over approximately half the oil change cycle, it always has. I don't like that it consumes oil. I find it annoying that some trucks do, and some don't. I know Ford also has consumption issues, more so in the 5.0 than the ecoboost, but as far as I know they don't publish any sort of statement. If they did, everyone would be on their ass too. They use to have a similar, or even worse, plublication for the coyote but I think stopped publishing it in 2020ish and now don't acknowledge it just dealing with it on a case by case basis....but will also call it normal consumption.

I have close to 4k towing miles with my 29' travel trailer. So it spends a little more than 5% of the time towing.
 
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I get engines burn oil, but it seems much more common with GM. I have heard of Fords and Rams doing it but nowhere near as often. I wonder if it is just as common or it really happens more often in GM. And if so, why.
 
Dusdaddy said:
I get engines burn oil, but it seems much more common with GM. I have heard of Fords and Rams doing it but nowhere near as often. I wonder if it is just as common or it really happens more often in GM. And if so, why.
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I doubt GM engines are consuming more oil than other brands. That just doesn’t seem right. But, hey maybe they do!
 
I think GM was the first to call miles as low as 2K normal so maybe that's where it came from? I do know my cousin fought with Ford on a new truck over it. He was adamant it was not normal to add a quart between changes, but Ford argued it was. He ended up trading it in and the next truck, same year/engine, needed nothing added between changes. But that was over ten years ago.
 
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Ford says a QT at 3k miles is normal, above that they have a TSB that doesn't seem to really address the issue. They tried to addressing it with many noting no change after the TSB. Then all TSB's and publications went away, probably because of pending lawsuits.

This is a few years back from the tsb standpoint I think the lawsuits are hitting now.
 
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Fightnfire said:
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Ford says a QT at 3k miles is normal, above that they have a TSB that doesn't seem to really address the issue. They tried to addressing it with many noting no change after the TSB. Then all TSB's and publications went away, probably because of pending lawsuits.

This is a few years back from the tsb standpoint I think the lawsuits are hitting now.
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Yeah, I found that same lawsuit. I do find it odd it is the 5.0L and not the EcoBoost. I mean turbocharged engines always get the bad rap, so I assumed it was them.
 
Fightnfire said:
I don't love it. My truck consumes a quart over approximately half the oil change cycle, it always has. I don't like that it consumes oil. I find it annoying that some trucks do, and some don't. I know Ford also has consumption issues, more so in the 5.0 than the ecoboost, but as far as I know they don't publish any sort of statement. If they did, everyone would be on their ass too. They use to have a similar, or even worse, plublication for the coyote but I think stopped publishing it in 2020ish and now don't acknowledge it just dealing with it on a case by case basis....but will also call it normal consumption.

I have close to 4k towing miles with my 29' travel trailer. So it spends a little more than 5% of the time towing.
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I traded my F150 after it got past factory wtty. 5.0 used 4 qts every 5000 miles. TSB called for ford to reprogram computer, supposedly because of too much vacuum on decel. I thought it was better after that UNTIL I actually checked the dipstick after dumping the required 9 qts of oil. Oil level cold was 1.5 inches above the full mark. By the time it showed full it was already almostb 2 qts low. Found out part of that TSB was to "replace the dipstick" (evidently with a longer one):mad: Traded it in on a 2025 GMC Sierra 5.3. I think the biggest problem is the low wt oils they are requiring to use. 0-20 is like water
 
Dang, nobody can build a reliable, largely issue free truck anymore. All these trucks were designed to meet cafe/emission standards and now they are all trash. Toyota, Ford, GM, Dodge…every one is less reliable and more glitchy than its predecessor.

I’m seriously on the verge of picking up a 26 F150 Raptor and I have a nagging feeling I’ll regret it. My 24 Tacoma is flawless at almost 2 years and 15k miles. My daughters 24 Tacoma has had 0 issues in 2 years and 55k miles. My other daughter just bought a 24 Tacoma Trailhunter. I seriously doubt the F150 base that a raptor is built on will be that reliable. Still want one…so yeah, I’m dumb.
 
Rotten.dalton said:
Dang, nobody can build a reliable, largely issue free truck anymore. All these trucks were designed to meet cafe/emission standards and now they are all trash. Toyota, Ford, GM, Dodge…every one is less reliable and more glitchy than its predecessor.

I’m seriously on the verge of picking up a 26 F150 Raptor and I have a nagging feeling I’ll regret it. My 24 Tacoma is flawless at almost 2 years and 15k miles. My daughters 24 Tacoma has had 0 issues in 2 years and 55k miles. My other daughter just bought a 24 Tacoma Trailhunter. I seriously doubt the F150 base that a raptor is built on will be that reliable. Still want one…so yeah, I’m dumb.
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But you gotta remember, these oil consumption rates we are talking about are not new. They have been around for a decade or more. I believe the first Ford I heard about was a 2000. GM before that.
 
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